Upgrading Wet Cell A'van Batteries

 

   

 

Now that A'vans have been on the market for a few years quite naturally some of the consumables such as batteries are starting to wear out. We have had quite a few emails on this subject. First up when thinking of a replacement you will save yourself possible grief if you replace the battery with the SAME type. The reason for this is wet cell or FLOODED CELL batteries and GEL types charge at different voltages. If you charge a gel battery on the flooded setting you could literally blow it up through overheating or at least reduce its life. We strongly suggest that  you check out the correct charging voltage for the replacement battery you intend using BEFORE you buy it. Not all sealed batteries for instance require the reduced voltage. 

Yes A'vanners it's another minefield for all us retirees trying at all costs to reduce stress! The email below is fairly typical of most battery enquiries, but in this case Ross dabbles in electronics and is prepared to fiddle. We have included it here as it illustrates the problems with replacing with a different type. We suggested he use a Zenner diode set up after the Arlec or buy an ARRID charger from the 12 Volt Shop in Perth. 

The picture above is a Kyocera FM16C solar regulator ideal as a replacement if yours dies. We have this one fitted and our battery is now always fully charged. The cost was an horrific $215.00 from Battery World but truly it is worth every cent as the LED readout on the Arlec is just too difficult to read. Pressing the red button on the right gives you an instant digital reading of the AMPS going into the battery. The "16" in the model number means that we can add extra panels such as the popular fold up ones in a suitcase, all the way up to 16 amps total charge or power use in full sun. It has all the goodies such as temperature compensation, polarity protection and variable tapered rate charging. The red LED warns you s soon as the battery voltage drops below 11.4 To change from flooded to gel you simply remove a jumper. The set points are 14.1 for sealed and 14.4 for flooded. These vary with temperature. We should mention that it is very bad practice to use different battery types in the same bank due to the different charging rates. Warranty is "5 years limited" whatever that means! More info on the Kyocera website at:- (in PDF) www.kyocerasolar.com/PDF/SCSFM16C.pdf

As usual  of course we did make a boo boo! For a few dollars more we could have got the FM16C. What this little fellow does is as soon as your A'van battery is fully charged it trickle charges your car battery. To us at least this is a very desirable situation.  Now the bad news! After sales service on technical enquires placed with Kyocera is absolutely non-existent. We are still waiting three months down the track for an answer to the simple question - "does it have its own blocking diodes". To be on the safe side we fitted one in the line anyway (stops the current flowing back into the solar panel in darkness)

A good mate of ours in Broome, Collyn Rivers has just about finished writing a book on RV electrics. Watch out for a review in June 2002. The book is in response to requests for more info from those who bought his RV book we reviewed in the February 2002 A-What's New section.

 

Dear Bob,
 
Firstly thank you for a very interesting newsletter. I am an A'van member and look forward to the newsletter with all the mods and patches. Interesting to note all the stuff about batteries. We have or should I had a Bosch type battery which has died (2yrs old.) perhaps for a number of reasons, but most importantly because we were told it was a no or low maintenance battery. How wrong could you be, as the first time I had a look at it was when I fitted a solar cell and regulator to the system about 12 months ago and it didn't have much water in it then. Now its buggered! I have just fitted a 45 Ahr @ 8hr rate AGM sealed battery, now need to reduce the charging voltage. This as far as the solar cell is concerned is simple as I built the Oatley K009 regulator and its just a simple, matter of putting the multi meter on the cell and adjusting the max voltage. As for the inbuilt Arlec regulator that is a different matter. I wonder if there are any of our members out there who know how we can modify the Arlec regulator to bring down the charging voltage so as the Sealed Lead acid cells are not over charged. Limit of about 13.5 volts, not 14.2. The battery I got for replacement was advertised in the latest copy of ReNew and are $60 ea. they are brand new but have no warranty.
 
I look forward to your reply

Ross Dawkins
Truro SA 5356
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PS. Take a peek at Ross's little B&B he runs - wonderful stuff! Now folks, just how does he find time to run around the country in his trusty A'van?

Bob Eustace

 


 

 

 

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